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Old 04-25-2009, 02:47 AM
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REALLY HOPE THIS IS OK TO POST IF NOT PLEASE REMOVE...

just prepared a video that shows a dogfight where pilots of Hellenic Air Force "fight" with Turkish f-16's...this happens everyday here with more than 30-50 violations of our air space and its a really bad situation that can end very badly at some point i am afraid...your feedback on this would be great.

here is the youtube link for all to watch...


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Old 04-25-2009, 03:55 AM
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Default Armenian Genocide

At first I thought you were talking about the Armenian Genocide by the Turks. Apparently Greeks were also killed by the Turks during that same time period.

The Armenian Genocide, also known as the Armenian Holocaust, the Armenian Massacres and by Armenians, as the Great Calamity, refers to
the deliberate and systematic destruction (genocide) of the Armenian population of the Ottoman Empire during and just after World War I.
It was characterised by the use of massacres, and the use of deportations involving forced marches under conditions designed to lead to
the death of the deportees, with the total number of Armenian deaths generally held to have been between one and one-and-a-half million.
Other ethnic groups were similarly attacked by the Empire during this period, including Assyrians and Greeks, and some scholars consider
the events to be part of the same policy of extermination.

It is widely acknowledged to have been one of the first modern genocides, as many Western sources point to the systematic,
organized manner the killings were carried out to eliminate the Armenians.

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Old 04-25-2009, 11:03 AM
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this is definitely true sadly...you know my family comes from asia minor and have lived the greek genocide in august 1922 with more than 750.000 dead people in a few days...and 1.5 million of people as refugees that came all over greece...of course into this not only the "bad" turks but many european nations played their role and OF COURSE we have the biggest part of this disaster since our politicians played the game of england and others on this by supporting them in many cases - like the war in ukrania in 1919 which made the russians turn against us and help turkey although we are both orthodox christians -

in a couple of words many were the mistakes and through my readings of history of the era i have to conculude that greek politicians have the biggest part on the disaster and not turks or anybody else...

we - dont know if this stands for italy too - have a big minus...we fight each other...as a greek i am not afraid of anybody else than our bad self haha...

Ancient spartans NEVER asked about the number of the enemy the only think they asked was about WHERE they are in order to start the battle..think these kind of men dont exist in our modern "overfed and fat" socities anymore..
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btw just to say a well done boys to our Hellenic air force that have beaten the USA airforce well scoring a great 18-3 kills in their "Red Flag" military exercise held in the USA...

"Greek pilots have achieved in total 18 "kills" against USAF Aggressors while suffering only 3 losses in air-to-air combats-the last during a mission of protecting a HVAA target with 4 aircraft against 12 USAF Aggressors fighters. The first day of the drill scoring was 11-0 to Greek pilots and to the last mission,mentioned above,they have managed 7 "kills" against Aggresors fighters while loosing only 3 in exchange"


WELL DONE HOPE WE WONT NEED YOU SOON HAHA...
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