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I am doing some exercises where I am practicing the use of ci, ne o ce ne, but I am not sure if I am right. Could someone kindly check the correctness of my answers?

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1. Quante televisioni ci sono a casa tua?
-Ci sono tre televisioni a mia casa. Or: Ce ne sono tre
2. Quanti corsi segui questo semestre?
-Ne seguo quattro.
3. Quanti fratelli hai?
Ne ho uno.
4. Quanti compagni di stanza hai?
-Ne ho quattro.
5. Sei stato in Europa?
-No, non ci sono mai stato.
6. Quanti regali pensi di dare? Quanti regali pensi di fare?
-Penso di ne ho regali molti. Penso di farne molti
7. Quanti libri hai comprato questo semestre?
-Ne ho comprati tre o quattro.
8. Quest'estate sei andato al mare?
-Si, sono andato al mare. Or: Si, ci sono andato ( in questa frase non puoi scrivere “ci sono andato al mare”; “ci” e “mare” sono una ripetizione e una dovrebbe escludere l’altra).. non č un errore..
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Old 02-25-2009, 04:38 PM
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Both "ci" and "ne" are pronouns which mean that they take the place of nouns

"Ci" is ofen times used in order to say "there". It often times replaces phrases with the word "a" in them.

Vado alla scuola = I go to the school.

BUT

Ci vado = I go there. Ci replaced "a" and "la scuola" (they are now gone)

Vai in Italia = you go to Italy.

BUT

Ci vai = you go there.

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Ne is used with quantities or how many of something you have. It many times can mean "of them"

Ho due computer = I have two computers.

BUT

Ne ho due = I have two of them. Ne replaces "computers" (which are now gone)


Abbiamo 3 case = we have 3 houses.

BUT

Ne abbiamo 3 = we have three of them.

Note that the words "ci" and "ne" must go BEFORE the conjugated verb. You could never say something like "abbiamo ne!!! (Ouch that is so wrong that it hurts my ears!) BUT...if there is one conjugated verb (such as I want) and one infinitive (such as to go) in the same senetnce, you must attach ci or ne to the infinitive. For example:

Let's try the sentence I want to go there.

I want = voglio (that is the conjugated verb) to go = andare (that's the infinitive) there = Voglio andarci

How about this one: She needs to buy two of them.

she needs = Ha bisogno di (conjugated) to buy = comprare (infinitive) two of them. = ha bisogno di comprarne due.


So, let's go over your homework:

2. Quanti corsi segui questo semestre? = How many course are you taking this semester?
-Ne seguo quattro. = I take four of them (we use ne because there is a number or quantity of courses

3. Quanti fratelli hai? = How many brothers do you have?
Ne ho uno. = I have one of them same thing here...a number or quantity of brothers

4. Quanti compagni di stanza hai? = How many roomates do you have?
-Ne ho quattro. = I have four of them same thing as previous two...a quantity of roommates

5. Sei stato in Europa? = Have you ever been to Europe?
-No, non ci sono mai stato. in this sentence we are using "ci" to mean "there" "I have never been there" Note that "Ci is placed before the conjuagted verb sono (from the verb essere)

6. Quanti regali pensi di dare? = How many gifts do you intend do give? Quanti regali pensi di fare?
Penso di farne molti = I intend to make many of them notice that here ne is attached to the infinitive fare because there is one
conjugated verb (penso) and one
infinitive fare


7. Quanti libri hai comprato questo semestre? = How mnay books did you buy this semester?
-Ne ho comprati tre o quattro. = I bought three or four of them

8. Quest'estate sei andato al mare? = Did you go to the beach this summer?
-Si, sono andato al mare. Or: Si, ci sono andato ( in questa frase non puoi scrivere “ci sono andato al mare”; “ci” e “mare” sono una ripetizione e una dovrebbe escludere l’altra).. non č un errore..

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I am doing some exercises where I am practicing the use of ci, ne o ce ne, but I am not sure if I am right. Could someone kindly check the correctness of my answers?

1. Quante televisioni ci sono a casa tua?
-Ci sono tre televisioni a mia casa.
2. Quanti corsi segui questo semestre?
-Ne seguo quattro.
3. Quanti fratelli hai?
Ne ho uno.
4. Quanti compagni di stanza hai?
-Ne ho quattro
5. Sei stato in Europa?
-No, non ci sono mai stato.
6. Quanti regali pensi di dare?
-Penso di ne ho regali molti
7. Quanti libri hai comprato questo semestre?
-Ne ho comprato tre o quattro.
8. Quest'estate sei anadato al mare?
-Si, ci sono adato al mare.


Thanks sooo much you guys! You guys are always so helpful.
direi.....

1. Quante televisioni VI(ci) sono a casa tua?
-VI(Ci) sono tre televisioni a mia casa.
2. Quanti corsi segui questo semestre?
-Ne seguo quattro.
3. Quanti fratelli hai?
Ne ho uno.
4. Quanti compagni di stanza hai?
-Ne ho quattro
5. Sei stato in Europa?
-No, non VI(ci) sono mai stato.
6. Quanti regali pensi di dare?
-Penso di ne ho regali molti
7. Quanti libri hai comprato questo semestre?
-Ne ho comprato tre o quattro.
8. Quest'estate sei anadato al mare?
-Si, ci sono adato al mare. conflitto!! Come ti hanno fatto notare.<< Si, vi sono stato.>>
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perfect timing!

We just reviewed "ne" in class last night.

Proffessoresa also told us some idiomatic(?) phrases using "ne"

non me ne importa = I don't care (I read it literally as it isn't important to me)
non ne posso pui = I can't take it anymore!
me ne vado = I am out'a here!

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idiomatic means that the sentence can not be translated litteraly from Italian to English and vice versa.

Non ne posso piu would mean I can't of it any more...but in good english it means I can't take it anymore!!

There are so many idioms in Italian.

Ho fame = I am hungry but it would be translated litteraly as "I have hunger"

Hanno freddo = they are cold but is translated litteraly as "they have coldness"

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Wow you guys! Thanks so much!

I love this site! And I love you guys!

Better than my actual Italian teacher, lol.
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