ANdres, why do you say they will be in danger?

It is simple to say and difficult to calculate. Out from some point in Vatican, some point in Mecca and some point in Istanbul I got formula and it is show direct to west Sudan. There can be Darfur or border of it. So point there is negative it is going back east over Mecca, over some mountain in Iran. (I believe there is something inside this mountain.) So coordinate is going much longer over China up to point near border of S and N Korea. If you remember in autumn 2006 there was been crise. So well. same coordinate is stoping around 200 km from Japanese beach. So if something will going wrong Tokyo will be out of map because coordiante will continue to run over Japan.

Andres

An important researcher by the name of Simonetta Cerrini, who is one of the most significant Italian Templar scholars stimata by Malcom Barber, has published a recent book in France titled "The Revolution of the Templars." This book has collections of documents from all over the world reguarding the beginnings of the Templars. She says before she was convinced that the first Gran Master Templar Hugues de Piens came from Champange France, as Malcom Barber says. Now Simonetta Cerrini is not sure anymore because there is not significant proof of this. Other historical versions, like the Italian one, are equally valid, but there is a need to deepen research. In her book, she doesn't only use the name "Hugues de Piens" like all the other historians today, but uses also the name HUGO DE PAGANIS! This is vital because it's becoming officially known that the valid research performed on Hugo de Paganis coming from LUCANIA is correct, and that he is French is not an assured fact.
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la ricercatrice Italiana Simonetta Cerrini, la più importante studiosa italiana di Templari stimata da Malcom Barber, ha pubblicato di recente in Francia un libro che si intitola "La revolution des Templiers". In questo libro ha raccolto in tutto il mondo i documenti che riguardano l'inizio della storia dei Templari. Lei dice che prima era convinta che il primo Gran Maestro dei Templari Hugues de Paiens proveniva dalla Champagne in Francia, come dice Malcom Barber. Ora Simonetta Cerrini non è più sicura di questo perchè le prove non sono sufficienti. Le altre versioni storiche, come quella Italiana, sono ugualmente valide, percui bisogna approfondire la ricerca. Nel suo libro non usa più solo il nome di Hugues de Paiens, come fanno tutti gli storici oggi, ma usa anche il nome di Hugo de Paganis! Questo è importantissimo perchè viene riconoscita ufficialmente la validità della ricerca fatta su Hugo de Paganis proveniente dalla Lucania e che quella Francese non è sicura!!!

Hi Gianni,
I was reading the last reply on your article about Acerenza and the the sacres geometry. And I became curious what Andres meant by his research and that there would be a danger to search for the answers or so? I already told you about the city of Ljubljana in Slovenia what is almost totaly built by the ideas of the Goldene Schnitt or sacred geometry. The famous Slovene architect Joze Plecnik(mind the accents) who lives from 1872 untill 1957, built with the ideas of the sacred geometry. He was also a very religious catholic and it's surprising to see that Antoni Gaudi had the same ideas, however that didn't know each other.
Is it somehow connected to more cities in the world?
Greetings from Ali from Holland

First of all I want to thank everyone for their submissions to this article! There is a wealth of information here and it is going to take me awhile to assimilate it.

I lean more toward "Champagne Nobility expert Theodore Evergates" studies. My research (for the last eleven years) follows his. It will take me awhile to go through my records for more details to provide everyone with the exact details. Perhaps a few days.

However, this information is now available at the Forum http://www.templarfellowship.com. Visit, lurk and/or join if you wish - we invite you all.

An interesting aspect to this article is bothering me. I know relatively nothing about early Italy and the Templars, except about the Principality of Seborga, near Monaco. I have records that indicate St Bernard held the first Templar investiture there around 1118 in Seborga, where the Templars were protecting the 'Great Secret." In fact two monks that happened to be there joined the Templars at this time. I don not have their names memorized. But from this moment on they continued their journey to Troyes.

The Bard
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Thank you for that, Jacqueline! I know that took a lot of work, but most skeptics should be satisfied.

Except me of course. I recognize some of the records you mentioned, but I have proof of other records signed and witnessed in charters, church records and papal bulls. I am working on gathering them for this article.

William of Tyre - I am VERY skeptical of him. He is known to make mistakes and dates.

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Ciao Bard

I build and sell properties in Calabria, I am not a reseacher but during my site inspection visits, I heard the topic Templars once discussed when I went to visit Chartreuse Monastery. These are the Monks who have taken a vow of prayer, work and silence. Women are not allowed near the grounds so I dont get many requests to visit the Monastery. The Chartreuse Monastery is located in Serra San Bruno a town in the province of Vibo Valentia close to the famous town of Tropea. Some critics believe there was a relationship with the monks in 1070 but I not sure.

Quote: In 1070, a group of monks from Calabria, Italy, were led by one Prince Ursus, founded the Abbey of Orval in France near Stenay, in the Ardennes. These monks are said to have formed the basis for the Order de Sion, into which they were folded in 1099 by Godefroi de Bouillion.
Other theories …

http://www.crystalinks.com/prieuredesion.html