Hello and buon pomeriggio,

I am fairly new to this website and I've just signed up today. I am currently learning the basic fundamentals of the language at my local community college and I just have a few questions in regards to the language that I haven't had time to ask my instructor:

1. What is the difference between ti, te, and tu? and when should one use them?
2. What is the difference between the verb conjugations, using dimenticare as an example, of dimenticando and dimenticante? and when should I use the conjugation?
3. In how many different ways can come, chi, and che be used?
4. What is the difference between che cosa, and che?

and.. that's all that I have so far ^_^
and thank you for those who are willing to help

[QUOTE=FalseReality;23286]Hello and buon pomeriggio,

I am fairly new to this website and I've just signed up today. I am currently learning the basic fundamentals of the language at my local community college and I just have a few questions in regards to the language that I haven't had time to ask my instructor:

1. What is the difference between ti, te, and tu? and when should one use them?
2. What is the difference between the verb conjugations, using dimenticare as an example, of dimenticando and dimenticante? and when should I use the conjugation?
3. In how many different ways can come, chi, and che be used?
4. What is the difference between che cosa, and che?

Buon giorno FalseReality e benvenuto al forum.

First, the way I understand it in colloquial speech Itaian people don't use Buon pomeriggio. It's Buon giorno up to about 3 or
4 PM. After that it's buona sera. Somebody told me once they don't use buona sera until 8 P.M. Buona notte is used when saying
good bye for the night. The word pomeriggio is used for saying something like see you later on in the afternoon.

Ti amo. I love you. Tu sei molto gentile. You are very nice.

1. tu = subject pronuon
te = object pronuon
This is a rule that comes from latin (for exemple io --> me)
ti = a te = they are both personal pronuons of complement
the personal pronuons of complement are divided in two
categories : "atoni" (for exemple ti) and "tonici" (for
(exemple a te)
The "atoni" ones must be used before a verb.
Cosa ti piace? --> A te cosa piace?
They have the same meaning.

2. these are "participio presente", wich is not much used,
and the "gerundio presente".
the participio presente and the gerundio presente of the
verb dimenticare are not much used. Let's choose "derivare" for the participio and "correre" for the gerundio.
For exemple:
a. questa è una parola derivante dal latino
derivante = che deriva
b. Ho perso le chiavi correndo
The gerundio presente is used to indicate the state of being
contemporary between two happenings

3. I don't understand well the question

4. They are quite the same
Che cosa vuoi?
Che vuoi?

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i've just found these two schedules
hope they are useful for your 1st question

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Marco_mi, Can you give some or a lot of sample sentences with ti and te? Especially te? Esempio. Un regalo per te. A gift for you.

Ti amo. I love you. Ti amo e questo regalo e per te. I love you and this gift is for you.

Also think of mi and me. Mi piace. I like(it). Un regalo per me. A gift for me. Mi corresponce to ti and me to te. Capisce?

Non ti hanno dato niente da fare? They didn't give you anything to do?

Non lo darei per scontato se io fossi in te. I wouldn't take it for granted if I were you.

Dove ti sei nascosto? Fatti vedere. Where are you hiding? Show your face.(Let me see you.)

-Vieni! Te li faccio vedere. Come! I'll show you."

Dipende da te se vuoi farlo o no. It depends on you whether you want to do it or not.

Cuanto ti e costata la macchina? How much did your car cost?(you)(Mi e costata un occhio della testa.)

Che cosa ti costa essere gentile? Why is it so difficult for you to be nice? (What does it cost you to be nice?)

Ti conviene chiedere permesso prima di partire. You should ask permission before leaving.

Ti ho chiamato ieri sera, ma non rispondevi. I called you last night, but you didn't answer.

Non ti hanno chiamato per nome? They didn't call you by name?

-Come ti chiami? -Mi chiamo Davide. "What is your name?" "My name is David."

Tu pensi che Graziella canti bene? Do you think Graziella sings well?

-Cosa hai? -Niente. Non ha niente a che fare con te. "What's the matter with you?" "Nothing. It has nothing to do with you."

Come Te Non C'è Nessuno. There's nobody like you.

You learn a lot when people ask these questions.

ti stai divertendo? --> Are you having fun?
te l'avevo detto! --> I told you so!
ti stai arrampicando sugli specchi. --> you are clutching at straws.
beato te! --> lucky you!
buon per te! --> good for you!
con o senza di te. --> with or without you
sii te stesso. --> be yourself.
fai da te --> do it yourself or how-to
mi dispiace che tu te ne vada --> sorry to see you go
non lo farei se fossi in te --> if I were you I won't do it
te lo meriti --> you deserve it
ti amo --> I love you
come ti senti? --> how you feel?
ti dispiace se apro la finestra? --> Would you mind if I open the window?
perchè te ne sei andato? --> why did you go?
non è problema per te no? --> it's not a problem for you, isn't it?
ti sei fatto male? --> did you hurt yourself?
che ti prende? --> what's got into you?
cosa ti sta succedendo? --> what's going on with you
non ti preoccupare --> don't worry

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[QUOTE=marco_mi;23357]ti stai divertendo? --> Are you having fun?

Complimenti Marco_mi e grazie. Buon per te!

Tanti grazie.

Ok, basically tu and ti follow verbs/aux. verbs and te is used in a complimentary sense?

What exactly is atoni and tonici? Because according to il mio piano di studio I shouldn't be even be considering asking these questions yet..

Oh yeah, I'm sorry about question number 3.. ^_^ I wrote this thread like 5 or 10 minutes after I had woken up. I guess I was trying to ask what is the translation for the 5 "W's" in Italian and how are they used? Because I know che can be used as "what" and "that".

I have another question as well.. What is the differnce between: si and sta? and si sta as well?

"I have another question as well.. What is the differnce between: si and sta? and si sta as well?"[/quote]

Si is an adverb. It means yes. Sta comes from the verb stare.(STAH-reh)(STAH-ray) Io sto, tu stai, Lei sta, Lui sta, noi stiamo, Voi state, loro stanno. Io=I, tu=you, Lei=you, Lui=he,him, noi=we, voi=you plural, loro=they-stoh
stow-stie-stah-stee-AH-moh--STAH-teh-STAH-no
Lui sta bene. He is fine. Come sta? Sto bene. How are you? I'm fine.
Stare=to stay, be, remain, stand;be situated, live;fit, suit;depend (on);be about to
La casa sta in mezzo alla campagna. The house is (situated) in the middle of the countryside.
A Maria Grazia non piace stare al sole. Maria Grazia doesn't like to be (sit) out in the sun.
La mia casa sta in fondo alla strada. My house is at the end of the street.
Stava per piovere. It was about to rain.
Sta parlando di me? Are you talking about me? (Lei) sta parlando di me? Are you(polite)talking about me? (Tu) stai parlando di me? Are you(informal)talking about me?

False, You need to be listening to spoken Italian every day.
Go here and download totalmente gratis any and all of these audio Italian books. It's free. Listen to them on your computer while you ask and find out about your Italian questions.
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i don't think the difference between atoni and tonici is important, even many italians don't know it.
remember that between "ti" and the verb the must not be anything else; instead "te" is often used with prepositions (per te, di te, da te, con te, a te etc.)

5w
What --> Cosa
Who --> Chi
When --> Quando
Where --> Dove
Why --> Perchè
How --> Come
i think that what is more like "cosa" and that is more like "che"

sta is from the verb stare. it is also used with the gerundio
I am studing --> sto studiando
I was studing --> stavo studiando
"si" is used to make the passive form of the verbs
dimenticare --> dimenticarsi
si è dimenticato --> (he/she) has been forgotten

si sta is the passive form of the verb stare
si sta annuvolando --> it's getting cloud


PSmi ero dimenticato di quanto fosse difficile la grammatica italianaaaaaaa!!!!

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