06-24-2009, 07:27 PM
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oh, hi Steve
i'm afraid i don't speak italian till the moment
i'm Egyptian who knows a little english and seeking for some italiano
but i've done the translation already with google 
and i think you meant "unfortunately that it was a lady to had the embarrassing moment in Germany" 
i hope that i don't fall in the same thing with the italian language, as u said 
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06-24-2009, 08:11 PM
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Ciuao Falco,
I meant that is was fortunate (for me) that it happened to the lady instead of to me. Of course, it wasn't so fortunate for her!
See what I mean about my Italian? Always getting me into trouble. For example, I didn't even look at your Location on the message posting! Egitto, certo!
One of the things I've noticed is that when we are in our native country we don't pay as much attention to things (like your location) as we do when travelling. When in Italy I seem to notice more things - perhaps because they are "different" or perhaps because the mind knows that it has to pay attention to what would normally be everyday things.
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06-24-2009, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Evans  One of the things I've noticed is that when we are in our native country we don't pay as much attention to things (like your location) as we do when travelling. When in Italy I seem to notice more things - perhaps because they are "different" or perhaps because the mind knows that it has to pay attention to what would normally be everyday things. | Steve I think you're right, have you ever noticed tourists look much "higher" than natives? In Naples I can recognize a tourist from his ways of looking a every building we just walk past. I think it's a residue from ancestral human beings, a reminiscence of when we looked very good at the surroundings to adapt to it and guarantee ourselves survival.
EDIT/PS: what I wrote above was very difficult to express, I'm sure I've done a lot of mistakes, sorry! Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Evans Your English is very good - I am always in awe of people who are capable in multiple languages. | Well don't look at me or you can get scared 
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06-24-2009, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Zidanie5 Steve I think you're right, have you ever noticed tourists look much "higher" than natives? In Naples I can recognize a tourist from his ways of looking a every building we just walk past. I think it's a residue from ancestral human beings, a reminiscence of when we looked very good at the surroundings to adapt to it and guarantee ourselves survival.
EDIT/PS: what I wrote above was very difficult to express, I'm sure I've done a lot of mistakes, sorry!
Well don't look at me or you can get scared | Zidanie,
I looked very hard and found no mistakes!
You're right! I hadn't thought about it but we tourists do that - and often end up crashing into some poor guy who just wanted to get to work!
About the looking up, I wonder if that developed when hot oil or other, less agreeable substances  were flung from upper windows upon attackers or passers-by?
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06-25-2009, 02:42 AM
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I think that living in a country (no matter how exciting and amazing it's sights may be) makes you take these things for granted, you start thinking wether consciously or unconsciously that if you don't stop to see these things today you can see them tomorrow and if not then the day after and so you never really care about stoping to look up. with tourists they know they only have few days in that country so they tend to seize every second to make use of their time there.
well, that's what I think anyway.
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06-25-2009, 05:38 AM
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Nouran,
Your post may be an excellent example of why I like this forum and the people on it. You make me think. Yours is a great observation - I hadn't thought of it that way. There is a certain low level urgency when travelling that wakes you up to the things around you and you can't be complacent about the things you encounter.
Mille grazie!
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06-25-2009, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve Evans This is from Fodors "Things overheard while traveling". While it wasn't really overheard it illustrates the usefulness of learning the language of the countries you visit:
"My husband and I visited Munich, Dachau, & Hohenschwangau. It was about 10 pm, and I was exhausted. We had stopped for dinner and there had been a waitress that spoke really good English. We couldn't find a hotel, so we went back to the restaurant to ask if she knew where one was. She was no longer there, so I decided to ask the bartender. I completely lost all of my German, and so I just took out a map of the town, said 'bitte?' (hotel) and made a 'sleeping' gesture (laid my head down on my hands to the side). The bartender cracked up and said Nein, Nein....and showed me his wedding band. I was so embarrassed I just left." -- experienced by Fodor's member HeatherH | Your story is so funny.
Many thanks to ur post. I love it.
This is an interesting discussion. thank you for sharing
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