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Old 08-16-2007, 05:50 PM
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I had just read on the news caption of Lifeinitaly from ANSA news that Eros Ramazzotti is teaming up with ''Latin pop star Ricky Martin". First of all who are these Spanish speaking peoples of Puerto Rico, Central America and South America to have taken over the term and designation "Latin/Latino? What I mean is how do Italians allow this and most of all a news agency from Italy? Where is the Italians' knowledge of history and pride? These Central and South Americans have no right in being called, let alone having exclusive use, of the term Latin. They are not of the Latin race. The Latin language, culture and tribes originated and devoloped in ancient Rome and was the classical language of Italy and eventually of Western Europe. Latin roots came from the Roman forum and from cities like Pompeii and Herculaneum and not from Puerto Ricans from Spanish Harlem. It is the Italians who are the true original Latins over any other people and it is a profound cultural legacy from Italy. What gets me even more angry is how the attempt is made these days to classify Latin into a seperate race for Central and South Americans. And what race is that? Most Central and South Americans are a mixture of several races - white, Indian and black while Latin came from Italy, Europe. How come Italians don't realize this or complain about this. What gets me is that when it comes to discrediting Italy over something such as the erroneous assumption that pasta came from China through Marco Polo it is propagated and widely believed when in fact regardless of the fact of noodle making in China for possibly 2000 years, pasta was made in Italy before Marco Polo was even born as discovered cook books dated before his birth confirm. How come nobody says Latin came from Italy? I wish some people would write to the Italian news agency and Italian organizations and put some sense into their heads.-- From a proud Italian of his history.
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Amico, well spoken.I've been saying this for years. May be we should start a group.ITALIANS,THE ONLY LATINS.
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Thank you. It is something us Italians should realize.
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Amico, well spoken.I've been saying this for years. May be we should start a group.ITALIANS,THE ONLY LATINS.
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Old 08-22-2007, 03:35 PM
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Rudolph Valentino was considered the Latin lover "of all time", but was half French, and the French language is a derivative of Latin--Let's not devaluate the Roman Empire,eh? They did extend themselves into France and Spain, yes? Italian love making statistics in this day and age is at an all time low--couldn't get much lower--it's at a few times a week or month--it is significantly lower then Britain and one of the lowest in Europe--so how can you narrow it down to one race only? Italy as a country full of Latin Lovers? They need to be reborn into Latin Lovers ...that is such an old cliche!

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Old 08-22-2007, 05:23 PM
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Yes I know my history and I know that French, Spanish, Portugese,and Romanian came from Latin too but that was due to Italy from the Roman Empire so Italians are Latin over any other people. Do you dispute the history of Rome? And since when was Rudolph Valentino half-French? He was born in Castellanetta in the Puglia region of Italy. And the amount of love making per week does not classify one as Latin. Italians make love as much as any other people in fact they taught love making as an art as most other things since 60% of the Western Worlds cultural patrimony came from Italy. My original issue is where do Hispanic people of Central and South America who are a mixture of several races end up having exclusive use of the term Latin when it came from Italy.
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Old 08-22-2007, 06:08 PM
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Where Valentino's mother gave birth to him has no influence on what is in his blood. Valentino was half French since the moment his mother Marie Berthe Gabrielle Barbin gave birth to him. The amount of love/making does depend on what defines a Latin Lover---as I brought up, they did a study on this, and it was posted in an Italian Magazine just a few months ago. I do beg to differ with you on this. How could I dispute Rome's History? Of course I do not. They were the seeds, I agree. But the term Latin can be uses in may different contenses.
I enlarged your discussion.... just like a woman to think in terms of Latin Lovers...its a weakness

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My error. Valentino's mother was French but being or not being a lover does not constitute one as a Latin. My original issue is everywhere I look and hear these days here in the USA the term and designation Latin is used EXCLUSIVELY for Hispanic peoples. This I must say irkes me when regardless on how one tries to justify it the Latin language and culture came from my ancestors in Italy. All I know is if it was the other way around and Italians were using a term from some other land they would be reminded of it every day. When I hear that Jennifer Lopez is proud of her Latin roots I say what Latin roots? She is of Puerto Rican ancestry and one can see she is mostly of Indian extraction. I am giving an example and I have nothing against her.
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Old 08-22-2007, 06:38 PM
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Yes, why don't you do something to clear all this? It's a great idea...I think you really should. You certainly have the passion for this..don't let it get away...
I am in the process of publishing a book on Rome, here's an idea. I dont know if you write, but I am sure you can express this on paper. If you come up with a short but strong article on this, I will put it in my book---hows that for a beginning?

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Old 08-22-2007, 08:16 PM
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That sounds like a good idea about publishing it in a book. I sure would love to have Italians realize this but at the same time they should know these facts without them having to be reminded of it. Also, I am against the situation in Italy where they are allowing all these foreigners and immigrants to be practically invading their country. I am not speaking out of racism or prejudice in regard to these topics but I am a lover of Italian history and culture and like to see it preserved.I will write a new thread on the immigration topic but I need to run for now. Again the idea of the letter in the book sounds good. Thanks.
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