What they failed to explain is, if a plane didn't hit the Pentagon (they said they couldn't find bodies, seats, etc.), then where is that aircraft parked at the moment...and where are the passengers? Surely they would come forward.

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that's all very eye opening, including the fact that antonio mucci was the one who invented the telephone, at school we would be taught that it was Graham Bell, about a year or so ago I watched that movie with the title "Antonio mucci" and was very confused as to if he truely did invent telephones, it just shows how much we should really be open minded and investigate new findings even if they contradict with scientific facts, in movies about old periods of time there would be a scientist that believes there's more to know and to discover while the rest of the scientific world would be so errogant and think that all that's there to be discovered already has been discovered which is the case right now, if anyone tends to contradict with scientific facts he's considered to be ignorant and superstitious or may be a case of paranoia and psychological upnormality. also about altering history for political reasons is just DISGUSTING but even if a country provides all facts there would be only one side of the story, that's why I think when making history textbooks people who know about history from all nationalities should be brought to have a wider perspective and those books should be taught as they are with no change from a country to another except for they events that the student wants to study, to me it's a matter of human rights to be able to have access to facts and not versions of the truth.

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Nouran,

I like the concept of a stateless history but I don't think it would ever be published. Obviously, if anything did get published it would be so diluted by the committee that oversaw its development that it would never address any significant event.

Instead of waiting for the universal histroy it would be much more fun to read histories published in multiple countries. For example, the history of the US Vietnam war as written by the French (who were there before us), the Chinese (who supported Noth Vietnam, kinda), the Vietnamese, and the Americans. Threre are several books on Vietnam by American authors and many of them disagree with each other. This could involve a LOT of reading!

I guess I could only hope

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[QUOTE=Steve Evans;24953.

Instead of waiting for the universal histroy it would be much more fun to read histories published in multiple countries.
For example, the history of the US Vietnam war as written by the French (who were there before us), the Chinese (who
supported Noth Vietnam, kinda), the Vietnamese, and the Americans. Threre are several books on Vietnam by American
authors and many of them disagree with each other. This could involve a LOT of reading![/QUOTE]

According to the Vietnamese government, 1,100,000 Vietnam People's Army and National Front for the Liberation of
Vietnam military personnel and 2,000,000 Vietnamese civilians on both sides died in the conflict. Although
most researchers of war history puts the civilian toll closer to 4 million.

The following is excerpted from Wikipedia... take it for what you will... but looks like the invention of the telephone is not as cut and dried as Meucci versus Bell...

"Credit for inventing the electric telephone remains in dispute. As with other great inventions such as radio, television, light bulb, and computer, there were several inventors who did pioneer experimental work on voice transmission over a wire and improved on each other's ideas. Innocenzo Manzetti, Antonio Meucci, Johann Philipp Reis, Elisha Gray, Alexander Graham Bell, and Thomas Edison, among others, have all been credited with pioneer work on the telephone."

"The early history of the telephone is a confusing morass of claim and counterclaim, which was not clarified by the huge mass of lawsuits which hoped to resolve the patent claims of individuals. The Bell and Edison patents, however, were forensically victorious and commercially decisive."

"1844 — Innocenzo Manzetti first mooted the idea of a “speaking telegraph” (telephone).
26 August 1854 — Charles Bourseul publishes an article in a magazine L'Illustration (Paris) : "Transmission électrique de la parole".
26 October 1861 — Johann Philipp Reis (1834–1874) publicly demonstrated the Reis telephone before the Physical Society of Frankfurt
22 August 1865, La Feuille d'Aoste reported “It is rumored that English technicians to whom Mr. Manzetti illustrated his method for transmitting spoken words on the telegraph wire intend to apply said invention in England on several private telegraph lines.”
28 December 1871 — Antonio Meucci files a patent caveat (n.3335) in the U.S. Patent Office titled "Sound Telegraph", describing communication of voice between two people by wire.
1874 — Meucci, after having renewed the caveat for two years, fails to find the money to renew it. The caveat lapses.
6 April 1875 — Bell's U.S. Patent 161,739 "Transmitters and Receivers for Electric Telegraphs" is granted. This uses multiple vibrating steel reeds in make-break circuits.
11 February 1876 — Gray invents a liquid transmitter for use with a telephone but does not build one.
14 February 1876 — Elisha Gray files a patent caveat for transmitting the human voice through a telegraphic circuit.
14 February 1876 — Alexander Bell applies for the patent "Improvements in Telegraphy", for electromagnetic telephones using undulating currents.
19 February 1876 — Gray is notified by the U.S. Patent Office of an interference between his caveat and Bell's patent application. Gray decides to abandon his caveat.
7 March 1876 — Bell's U.S. patent 174,465 "Improvement in Telegraphy" is granted, covering "the method of, and apparatus for, transmitting vocal or other sounds telegraphically … by causing electrical undulations, similar in form to the vibrations of the air accompanying the said vocal or other sound."
10 March 1876 — The first successful telephone transmission of clear speech using a liquid transmitter when Bell spoke into his device, “Mr. Watson, come here, I want to see you.” and Watson heard each word distinctly.
30 January 1877 — Bell's U.S. patent 186,787 is granted for an electromagnetic telephone using permanent magnets, iron diaphragms, and a call bell.
27 April 1877 — Edison files for a patent on a carbon (graphite) transmitter. The patent 474,230 was granted 3 May 1892, after a 15 year delay because of litigation. Edison was granted patent 222,390 for a carbon granules transmitter in 1879."