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I arrived in Italy in Dec'08 with family. My visa is lavoro subordinato & family's visa is famigliare-al-seguito, all visas are Schengen (that means the visas are not schengen tourist visas).
We have applied for soggiorno and we have postale recevuto (post receipts). We will get soggiorno in November 2009 because the process here takes min 10 months.
We want to visit Germany, Austria & other countries during our stay here, but without soggiorno can we travel out of Italy ? Is our schengen visa ok for tourist visit to other countries ?
Please guide me. If no, Please tell if any other solution.
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European Union has no actual borders, so I don't think there should be any problem.
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European Union has no actual borders, so I don't think there should be any problem.
True, but there a few EU countries that are non- Schengen (the UK being one) so the visa would not be valid there. Switzerland is a Shengen country, but not part of the EU.
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Wikipedia page about Schengen Area can help then.
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Thanks Zidanie5, I had a doubt because I do not have Schengen Tourist Visa but I have Lavoro Subordinato Schengen Visa (& family has famigliare al seguito Schengen Visa). And the company where I work, tells me that you can not go out of Italy till you get soggorno.
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Please check with the Italian Authorities first to make sure you are allowed back in on the same documents.
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So when I travel from France to Italy this June by
train they won't even ask to see my passport?
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So when I travel from France to Italy this June by
train they won't even ask to see my passport?
Quite possibly from Italy to France they may not ask, but going into Italy it's likely they will - when we drove here from the UK we were only asked for our passports once - on the motorail entering Italy!
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Source: Wikipedia

According to the Schengen Borders Code, the conditions applying to third-country nationals for entry are as follows:[29]

* The third-country national is in possession of a valid travel document or documents authorising them to cross the border; the acceptance of travel documents for this purpose remains within the domain of the member states;[30]
* The traveller either possesses a valid visa (if required) or a valid residence permit;
* The traveller can justify the purpose and conditions of the intended stay, and has sufficient means of subsistence, both for the duration of the intended stay and for the return to his or her country of origin or transit to a third country into which the traveller is certain to be admitted, or is in a position to acquire such means lawfully;
* There has not been issued an alert in the Schengen Information System for refusal of entry of the traveller, and
* The traveller is not considered to be a threat to public policy, internal security, public health or the international relations of any of the Schengen states

In other words, mere possession of a Schengen visa does not confer automatic right of entry. It will only be granted if the other transit or entry conditions laid down by EU legislation have been met, notably the means of subsistence that aliens must have at their disposal, as well as the purpose and the conditions of the stay.





It seems to me you have to satisfy these requirements to be ok. But maybe I misread.
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by the way, i've just heard that the governament is going to temporarily suspend the Schengen Borders Code because of the G8 (8-10 July)
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