Like you I didn't believe in ghosts or spirits either.

Years ago we moved to a new very large house that was a former ranch or on former ranch property. My neighbor infatti still had 15 horses.
Anyway not to long after moving in we started hearing these noises in the night of horses and horse carriages or wagons outside
the bedroom window. Then one night while we were asleep all of a sudden there was this thunderest roar of horses running on the
roof.(The roof was mostly flat and very long on one side.) My son came running into my room yelling and screaming that there were horses on
the roof. So it wasn't just me that heard this very loud roar of horses running on the roof infatti if anything it was even louder
for my son since his bedroom was right under that long flat part of the roof. This continued for awhile although not quite as loud
as that one time. Also many times while watching TV I would feel like there was somebody behind me watching me.

Oh, a proposito. My neighbor with the horses did not have any wagons and his horses were kept up at night in stalls way in the back.
The side of the house that the noise of the horses and wagons outside my window had no live horses around. Just in case you think
there can be any logical explination for those horse and wagon sounds there. And how in the sam hell could my neighbor or anybody
else get horses up on the roof. And besides many times I would run outside to see what was up on the roof and nothing was there.
Remember Santa Claus only comes once a year.

Actually my neighbor with the 15 hourses said he had seen ghost horses around his property too. Said after awhile he got use to it.

villa do you know the movie "the ring" about the girl samara and her mother who raised horses and the horses would kill themselves (or something like that)? what I meant by "another explanation" isn't a more logical one, I just believe that when you are dead you are dead, but may be there are other kinds of spirits, after all just because we can't explain something doesn't mean that there is no explanation for it.

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Hamlet:
And therefore as a stranger give it welcome.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

the universe has so many exciting things, but people just keep turning their backs to them just because they can't find their "logical" explanation for them. just because we can't comprehend or see the logic in something doesn't mean it's not there. when I said "when you are dead you are dead" I didn't mean that you stop being (cuz I believe in after life) what I meant is that when you are dead you don't wander around on earth torturing people or being tortured by being invisible, that doesn't seem just to me.

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On the other hand...

A couple of years ago we were in Venezia and engaged a tour guide (Alessandro Schezzini) to take us on a bacaro (wine bar) tour and, following that, a ghost tour.

So, we met at about 6PM on the Rialto Bridge and Alessandro took us to three bacari. By about 9PM we finished up the bacaro tour and we were very "happy". It was perfect for the ghost tour, twilight was fading into the dark of night and we were ready. Alessandro started the tour by telling us how he got started doing a ghost tour in Venezia. It was the idea of a guy named Rick Steves, of whom some of you may have heard. Rick tells Alessandro - "Alessandro, these tours of Venezia are very nice but you know what you need? You need a ghost tour!" . Alessandro replied to Rick, "But Signor Steves, there are no ghosts in Venezia. The Veneziani are rational people without superstitions. How could I give a ghost tour when there are no ghosts?".

Rick Steves said to Alessandro that he would just have to make some up.

Well, he did. But he didn't make them up out of some fantasy. He used the history of Venezia, excellent presentation skills, a wonderful sense of humor, and a little grappa (OK, for me it was a LOT of grappa). He took us to the house of Marco Polo and told us a story of Marco's wife. He took us to Campo San Giovanni e Paolo and the Ospedale Civili (which began as Scuola Grande di San Marco) and provided another story of a small poor boy and a priest.

There was more as we wandered the back streets and, if I had had perhaps one less glass of grappa, I'd be able to tell them to you. Finally, we popped out of the back streets to find ourselves on the Riva degli Schiavoni at the San Zaccaria vaporetto stop. It was a magic evening with good wine, a fine host, a magic city and friendly "ghosts".

sounds like fun,ghost stories are always exciting wether you believe in them or not.

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