La criminalita` esiste sia a Sud che a Nord. Forse non organizzata come mafia, camorra, 'ndragheta, ecc ma sono sicuro cha grandi citta` come Milano e Torino hanno anch'essi i loro problemi.
Non dimentichiamo gli anni bui delle brigate rosse. La grande maggioranza dei suoi aderenti venivano da Roma a Nord.
L'Italia non e` un grande paese e queste divisioni devono essere superate. Siamo un unico popolo, per il bene o male.

Son d'accordo sugli extra-comunitari come Albanesi o Rumeni che hanno creato la loro mafia in Italia e che dovrebbero essere deportati.
L'anno scorso ne fu` vittima una mia amica che fu derubata a Roma della macchina fotografica in una metro affollatissima. Fra le spinte, io e lei fummo separati e all'arrivo notai che il suo "back-pack" era aperto. La sua Nikon era scomparsa.
Sono sicuro che si trattava di Euopei dell'est perche` li avevo sentire parlare fra di loro. Quindi, spero che li cacciano tutti via.


Crescendo negli anni '60, molti del mio paese emigravano in Svizzera, Germania, USA, o citta` del nord. Eravamo pieni di donne e bambini perche` non c'era lavoro per gli adulti. Questi non erano pigri o fannulloni ma facevano grandi sacrifici per le loro famiglie. Adesso questi Tedeschi e Svizzeri hann costruito nuove case e i figli sono andati al liceo e universita`. Non solo, ma i soldi che spedivano a casa rappresentavano gran parte dell'economia del comune.
Il sud e` sempre stato magro di risorse e i vari governi democristiani del tempo l'avevano pressoche` ignorato, tranne per la cassa del mezzogiorno i cui fondi raramente venivano usati per il bene della gente. Invece la maggior parte finivano nelle mani di politici corrotti.
Il sud sara` sempre meno ricco del Nord perche` mancano le infrastrutture, c'e` poca industria o risorse naturali. Pero` progresso c'e` stato. Si vede dalle innumerevoli costruzioni nuove e dal fatto che l'emigrazione all'estero non esiste piu`.
Certo che non vivrei mai a Napoli o Palermo.....

Mi sun zeneize (io sono genovese...i'm come from genoa)....
this is dialetto of genoaa.... is very similar to Portuguese, as pronunciation ...is different from Italian ...
here we have PESTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pesto? Che schifo!! Non farmi vomitare.

ma vai a cagare..south merda! w GENOVA!

One of the great dangers of extremist opinions such as these is that it reinforces the relativist attitudes that are already prevalent in many Western cultures.

The enthusiastic embracement of a separatist mantra as though it will be the panacea to all of Italy’s unresolved problems cannot (and should not) be taken too seriously. It is an illusion of false hope. It is Panglossian in is optimism for a better future for Italy. A study of all previous independent civilisations and empires will show how short lived they were. Even Venice, once a powerful independent maritime republic and empire, weakened and eventually disintegrated, becoming the victim of her own undoing. Look again at the expansion of Rome and the colonisation of the peninsula. What happened to that? I think T.S. Eliot said it best - “In the life of one man, never the same time returns, sever the cord, shed the scale, only a fool, fixed in his folly, thinks that he can turn the wheel whereon he turns.”

The same can be said of Italy and her politics. The roots to inefficiency and lack of governability are complex, multifarious and multifactorial. It would be invidious to suggest otherwise. However, setting aside the inherent weakness in Italy’s public sector, the problem lies in part because there is a distinct lack of unity. This is embedded in the Italian psyche. Italians are highly individualistic. You only need to look within one region, Tuscany, for example, to realise that.

The originator of this thread does not want a fascist dictatorship. Nor does he want a Nazi or Communist regime. He says that Italy needs a democracy. But a democracy must be carefully legislated if we are to avoid an uneven distribution of political power. Separatism and xenophobia means the separation of power. This will only destroy democracy not create it.

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I cannot speak with much authority on this topic since I am (unfortunately for me) not Italian and don't live in Italy. However, I can appreciate the frustrations that Rambo gives voice to. In theory the government in Italy has been fighting the "mafia" in it's many forms for over 60 years. One would like to believe that the power of the state would have overcome that of the criminals in 60 years. Many good men and women in the justice system have given their lives in this battle.

However, instead of progress, there is the appearance that the influence of the "mafia" is being seen in the North as well as in the South which would indicate that the problem may not be limited to persons of the South. Greed is not, I think, limited by the gene pool.

If the chief of an illegal organization can "hide" in plain sight for 43 years before being arrested then there is something wrong with society. Government is not well trusted in Italy from what I read - so do people turn a blind eye at times because they don't want to get involved or because they fear the consequences of supporting the judicial system?

As much as I am uncomfortable with Rambo's extreme position (and with the Lega) I must admit that, with the exception of one trip to Napoli, we travel and stay in the North. If most foreign visitors take that approach then it is easy to understand why the North prospers and the South suffers economically. Oddly enough, I understand that Puglia is used by many Northern Italians as a reasonably priced place to vacation with excellent beachs, good wines and a lack of foreign tourists. Perhaps the South is not all bad Rambo?

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How do you explain this Rambo?

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Additionally it is said that Buenos Aires, Argentina has some of the most beautiful women in the world with amazing natural bodies.
Well 3/4 of the people from Buenos Aires are of Southern Italian origin. "This is the city of the "mujeres hermosas."

What's your opinion of all this Rambo boy?!

Considering that this is a public forum and therefore, people from all races, cultures and backgrounds, and walks of life will view these pages, I concur with Justin.

It is one thing to offer an informed opinion, which is what this forum aims to do in its quest to attract members who are interested in Italy and all things Italian. It is another when you are being completely bigoted and so obviously racist.

Should there be any repetition of such comments in future by Rambo, take note, they will be deleted.

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Vai a cagare? Io? Attenzione stronzo.. int'a bbucchina 'e mammt!!