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A good friend of mine just paid $500 for Rosetta Stone. He swears by it. Seems somewhat good for vocabulary
development but not for actuall speech per se. It maybe part of the puzzle to learn a second language but not the main
center piece and certainly not worth $500. Di ogni modo it is worth having ma non per $500.

villa, what exactly did you do to learn italian? it seems it worked very good for you so i want to follow your foot steps.
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villa, what exactly did you do to learn italian? it seems it worked very good for you so i want to follow your foot steps.
Ranola, Che bel nome. Complimenti.

"What did you do to learn Italian." Well Ranola, it's a very long
story but I don't mind telling it and I'm glad you asked.

These are the things I have done to learn both Italian and Spanish.

1. Oral out loud reading of Italian from books, text books, magazines, newspaper and all writtten material. My Italian books on tape(CD)are ideal for this. I listen to them in my car and then read the books later and or read along with the tapes/CDs.

2. Reading along with native speakers and having them correct me.

3. Studying Italian and Spanish phonectics and comparing them. Italian and Spanish are highly phonetic languages. This means that each sound is (almost) always graphically represented by the same combination of letters (vowels and/or consonants.) Compare that with English where, as Bernard Shaw once famously said, the word "fish" could be written "ghoti": F as in enough; I as in women; SH as in the ending -tion.

4. While living in Italy I watched only Italian TV and listened to Italian radio for 2 years straight without watching English
TV or listening to the radio in English. Did the samething with Spanish for 2 years when back in the U.S.

5. Listened/and him listening to Italian/Spanish tapes/CDs with walkmen type equipment while working around the house inside and out.
While lifting weights, washing dishes, mowing the lawn, washing the car, sweeping the driveway, writing on the computer etc. etc.

6. I watch 2 Italian movies a week. You can rent them from Nexflicks.

7. I have friends who speak the language and I speak to them.

8. I Read a little Italian every night in bed before going to sleep.

9. Teaching other people is a sure way to learn something better.

10. Flash cards. Use them with a partner or by yourself.

11. Singing in Italian and listening to Italian music. Amazon.com: Singer's Italian: A Manual of Diction and Phonetics ...Amazon.com: Singer's Italian: A Manual of Diction and Phonetics: Evelina ... Webster's New World Italian Dictionary: Italian/English, English/Italian ...
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Not to mention going to Italy again and studying Italian at the Universita di Perugia.

Years ago I found myself living in Italy at the tender young age of just 19. Had never taken any forgein language classes
let alone Italian. Right away people would come up to me and just start speaking in Italian. Had no idea what they were
saying but they sure were friendly and I just had to find out what it was they were saying. Bought a small Berlitz phrase
dictionary and that thing went everywhere with me. Had never been a good student in school but some how the bug to learn Italian
hit me hard. Every free minute I had I would take that little phrase book out and study it over and over. It was fun for me even
though I had always thought of studing as being tedious. In the meantime people kept coming up to me and speaking to me in Italian.
Started watching Italian TV and listening to Italian radio. Went to watch Italian movies every chance I got. Don't think it was easy
though.I gave up many many times but always came back. At one point I tried for a whole week to learn to count to 10 in Italian and could
not do it. I would say Come si chiama? over and over again and forget it in two seconds. Ma little by little, poco a poco I was learning
even though I didn't realize it. Also joined an Italian gym where everybody spoke only Italian. On Sundays it was church only in Italian.
Would go to soccer games and joined an Italian wrestling team where everybody spoke Italian.

Then one day about 4 or 5 months later after starting to learn Italian I went out on a blind date with an Italian girl who spoke no English.
Era molto bella. It was a double date. My friend spoke no Italian and his date spoke no English. The girls were talking in Italian and I was
understanding and all of sudden like a miracolo(miracle) the words just started flowing out of my mouth. My friend looked at me and said,
"Hey, I didn't know you knew how to speak Italian!" Told him I didn't know it either.
At any rate continued to go out with my Italian girlfriend and we fell in love. That's when I really started to learn Italian.

I noticed that I had gone through a silent period where
I just listened to Italian(along with studying)and then the words just started to flow out. Knowing this I really started watching Italian
TV every day and listening to Italian radio everyday piu che mai(more than ever). Would go everywhere around town and listen to people speak
Italian. When people saw me coming they would say "Oh, eccoti qua!" Come stai Davide? It was Davide this and Davide that. They would hug me,
kiss me on the cheek. It was great! I became Italian. Didn't even want to go back to the U.S. Not only did I learn to speak Italian I became Italian.

Di ogni modo, I found out that certain words in Italian just kept coming up over and over and that I needed to learn them well. Here they are among others:
Put them on flash cards and study them ogni giorno. Every day.

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Adverbs of quality or manner:

bene- well, (BAY-nay)
meglio- better,(MEL-yo)
peggio- worse (PEG-gee-oh)
male- badly, (MAH-lay_
anche- also (ON-kay
neanche- not either - tampoco
cosi- as, like (coe-SEE)
pure- also, too, (POO-ray)
insieme- together (in-see-EH-may)
come- as, like
Come mai? How come?
invano- in vain
naturalmente



Adverbs of time:

Cuando?- When?
sempre- always,
mai- never, (my)
oggi- today,
domani- tomorrow,
ieri- yesterday, (YEER-ree)
adesso- now, ora-now,
allora- then, poi-then, (owl-OH-rah)
dopo- after,
dopo domani, the day after tomorrow
prima(di)- before,
ancora- still,yet, non ancora-not yet (an-CORE-rah)
spesso(frequentemente)- often,
stasera- tonight,
presto- early,soon,
tardi- late,
a tempo- on time,
gia- already,
subito & immediatamente- immediately, (SUE-be-toe)
di quando in quando- from time to time,
di solito- usually,
fa-ago, tre giorni fa- 3 days ago,
fino a- until,
frattanto- meanwhile,
raramente- rarely,seldom,
recentemente- recently, (ray-chin-tay-MINT-tay)
ultimo- last,
una volta- once,

Adverbs of Place:

Dove?-Where?,
lontano-far,
vicino-near, (vee-CHEE-no)
dietro-behind, (dee-EH-tro)
davanti-in front of,
avanti-forward, (ah-VAHN-tee)
indietro-backward,
dentro-inside,
fuori-outside,
qua,qui-here,
li,la-there
giu-down (jew)
laggiu-down there (lah-jew)
lassu-up there (lah-sue)
accanto a - beside
sopra-above
sotto-below
tra,fra-between
via-away (vada via!-get out of here!)
attraverso- through
intorno,attorno - around
da nessuna parte - nowhere
da qualche parte - somewhere
dappertutto- everywhere
a destra - to the right
a sinistra to the left

Adverbs of quantity:

Quanto?- How much?
molto-much
troppo-too much
poco-little
tanto-so much
abbastanza-enough
quasi-almost
piu-more
meno-less
circa-nearly, about
soltanto, solo, solamente-only
assai-much
piuttosto- rather Piuttosto caro. - Rather expensive.
probabilmente- probably
piu o meno- more or less
veramente- indeed, really
purtroppo- unfortunately

Le Domande - Questions

Come?- How
Quanto? How much
Quanti? Quante? How many?
Come mai?- How come?
Che? What?
Che cosa? What?
Quale? Which?
Chi?(key) Who?
Perche? Why?
Perche -because
Che tipo di...? What kind of...?
Dove? Where
Dove ci vediamo? Where shall we meet?

Aggettivi importante

buono- good
buffo- funny
caldo- hot
fredo- cold
caro- costly
cattivo- bad
celibe (CHAY-lee-bay) single male
aperto- open
chniuso- closed
corto- short
debole- weak
forte- strong
difficile- difficult
facile- easy
gentile- nice
giovane- young
grande- big
piccolo- little
grasso- fat
magro- skinny
innocente
lento- slow
libero- free, availiable
malato- sick
meschio- mean
morbido- soft
nubile- single female
nuovo- new
occupato- busy
pesante- heavy
piacevole- pleasant
piccante- spicy hot
pieno- full
pigro- lazy
primo - first
profondo- deep
sbagliato- mistaken
scuro- dark
secco- dry
sordo- deaf
sporco- dirty
pulito- clean
umido- humid
vecchio- old
vivace- active
vuoto- empty
zitto- quiet

Prepositions - Don't forget to make flash cards!!!

a- to, at
da- from, by, sometimes at
di- of sometimes from, about
in- in into sometimes by, on
su- on sometimes upon
con- with
per- for, through sometimes in order to + verb

Ho... I am... (literally have)
fame- hungry
freddo- cold
caldo- hot
paura- afraid
sete- thirst
sonno- sleepy
vergogna- ashamed

Il Nome - Nouns

il gatto- cat
il cane- dog
la carne- meat
il pane- bread
il topo- rat
il libro- book
la porta- door
la casa- house
la montangna- mountain
il albero- tree
la finestra- window
il finestrino- car or train window
il genitore- parent
la parente- relative (f.)
il parente- relative (m.)
la valigia- suitcase
la pioggia- rain
il sindaco- mayor
la spiaggia- beach
il denaro, il soldi- money
la lingua- language, tongue
il paese- country, small town
il postino- mailman
la posta- mail
la camera- room or bedroom also la camera di letto

Basic Vocabulary
English Italian
Yes Sì
No No
Please Per favore
Thank You Grazie
Thank you very much Grazie tante
You're Welcome Prego
Sorry Mi dispiace, Scusa, Scusi (Formal)
I don't understand Non capisco OR Non ho capito
Good luck Buona fortuna
How many? Quanti?
How much? Quanto?
I am Io sono
Keep quiet Silenzio
Let's go Andiamo
Please, repeat Prego, ripeta
Very good Bravo, complimenti
What is this? Che cos'è questo?
Where is it? Dov'è?
You are very kind Sei molto gentile
Who knows? Chi lo sa? (or simply "Chi sa")
What is your name Come ti chiami??
My name is... Mi chiamo ...


Greetings
Hello/Hi Ciao, Salve
Good morning Buon giorno
Good afternoon Buon pomeriggio
Good evening Buona sera
Good night Buona notte
Goodbye Arrivederci
Farewell Addio


Numbers - 1 uno 2 due 3 tre 4 quatro 5 cinque 6 sei 7 sete, 8 otto 9 nove 10 dieci

Ordinal Numbers
First Primo
Second Secondo
Third Terzo
Fourth Quarto
Fifth Quinto
Sixth Sesto
Seventh Settimo
Eighth Ottavo
Ninth Nono
Tenth Diecimo
Eleventh Undicesimo
Twelfth Dodicesimo
Thirteenth Tredicesimo
Fourteenth Quattordicesimo
Fifteenth Quindicesimo
Sixteenth Sedicesimo
Seventeenth Diciassettesimo
Eighteenth Diciottesimo
Nineteenth Diciannovesimo
Twentieth Ventesimo


Cardinal Numbers

Colours
English Italian
Black Nero
Blue (Dark) Blu
Blue (Azure) Azzurro
Brown Marrone
Cyan Ciano
Green Verde
Grey Grigio
Indigo Indaco
Magenta Magenta
Orange Arancione
Pink Rosa
Purple Viola
White Bianco
Yellow Giallo
Red Rosso

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grazie, looks like i have a long road ahead of me, but i'm determined parlare italiano!
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grazie, looks like i have a long road ahead of me, but i'm determined parlare italiano!
Caro Ranola, It's Not the destination that Counts, it’s the Journey.

You're going to be ok as long as you enjoy learning Italian come io. Sempre ricordati(always remember)that it's the process
of learning Italian that counts more than the actual goal of learning Italian, percio(therefore)
as long as you're enjoying yourself while learning Italian you'll be ok.

Listen to Italian music molto. I some how mai sono stanco(never get tired) of listening to O sole mio per esempio. Listen to
the Italian language 24/7 or as much as you can. If you're not listening to Italian then you're not really learning molto.
It's only logico if you're not listening to Italian how can you learn Italian. The written word is great but you need to
actually hear the words. Get Italian CDs of audio books, Italian courses, Italian music etc. etc. Watch Italian TV, listen
to Italian radio and get Italian movies on DVDs.

Get your free audio Italian books here: http://www.liberliber.it -

Get your Italian movies here: Netflix Online Movie Rentals - Rent DVDs, Classic Films to DVD New ...Netflix: Log In - Starting at only $4.99/month. Free Trial. Over 80000 titles on DVD. Free, fast shipping both ways. Free Trial.
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Caro Ranola, It's Not the destination that Counts, it’s the Journey.

You're going to be ok as long as you enjoy learning Italian come io. Sempre ricordati(always remember)that it's the process
of learning Italian that counts more than the actual goal of learning Italian, percio(therefore)
as long as you're enjoying yourself while learning Italian you'll be ok.

Listen to Italian music molto. I some how mai sono stanco(never get tired) of listening to O sole mio per esempio. Listen to
the Italian language 24/7 or as much as you can. If you're not listening to Italian then you're not really learning molto.
It's only logico if you're not listening to Italian how can you learn Italian. The written word is great but you need to
actually hear the words. Get Italian CDs of audio books, Italian courses, Italian music etc. etc. Watch Italian TV, listen
to Italian radio and get Italian movies on DVDs.

Get your free audio Italian books here: http://www.liberliber.it -

Get your Italian movies here: Netflix Online Movie Rentals - Rent DVDs, Classic Films to DVD New ...Netflix: Log In - Starting at only $4.99/month. Free Trial. Over 80000 titles on DVD. Free, fast shipping both ways. Free Trial.
www.netflix.com/HowItWorks - 6k - Cached - Similar pages

true, you have to be listening constantly to learn it. as soon as i start getting back on track with my schedule and find some free hours in the day, i'm going to start watching italian movies, listening to music (more then i do already), etc.
very good points.
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